Thursday, March 26, 2009

Philosophy question: Nietzsche?

How did Nietzsche view women? I%26#039;m undecided on this question because sometimes he%26#039;s flattering and other times he is not. What do you think?
Philosophy question: Nietzsche?
Consider the time and place where he came from and the general attitude about women. Flattery, in my view, is not having a good opinion of someone.





We do, as he did, live is social times where there is some sense of the dominant viewpoints on certain issues by people.





The bulk of philosophy, psychology, medicine, science, etc. had a decided slant at the time and in certain locations in the world.
Philosophy question: Nietzsche?
Having read most of Nietzsche%26#039;s works, I have concluded that his views were mostly negative.


I find this a major weakness of Nietzsche because although he was able to transcend almost all other prejudices of his time, he was still unable to overcome chauvinism.
Reply:Here%26#039;s a brief bio of the woman he was in love with:





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Andreas...





He wrote %26quot;Thus Spake Zarathustra%26quot; while reeling under her influence.
Reply:I believe he didn%26#039;t have a positive view of women, but I think this might be due to his lack of success with women.
Reply:Nietzsche had a low opinion of women. He believed woman are naturally weaker than men, they have an instinct for a secondary role, represent the slave morality because they have a tendency for religion, are concerned mostly with self-preservation and are petty.


While at times he seems to be complimentary, these instances must be taken in context. They are not truly compliments as much as they are a admission of some type of worth or relevance in women, an admission that women do indeed have a role to play in the natural order.


%26quot;From the beginning, nothing has been more alien, repugnant, and hostile to woman than truth -- her great art is the lie, her highest concern is mere appearance of beauty. Let us men confess it: we honor and love precisely this art and this instinct in women -- we who have a hard time and for our relief like to associate with beings under whose hands, eyes, and tender follies our seriousness, our gravity and profundity almost appear to us like folly. ...%26quot;
Reply:Nietzsche had a lot opinion of women, but he also had a low opinion of men, animals, God, politics, and society in general. He was a nihilist, so take everything negative he says about women with a grain of salt.
Reply:Nietzsche%26#039;s writing on women is consistent with his STYLE OF WRITING. If a reader approaches the text in want of opinions, a writer the caliber of Nietzsche permits no insight beyond this, for Nietzsche is without a doubt also one of the best READERS of the most authoritative books.





Now, what are the most important, authoritative books, and how are the topics arranged in those works? Compare this, then, to what the majority now choose to read: newspaper, periodical, and digest. Nietzsche%26#039;s talent extends well beyond the blinking reader. A careful reader of important texts learns, as if merely through exposure to these texts, to look for %26quot;what is left unsaid%26quot;. This lasting look perceives what blinking intends to overlook.





When Nietzsche writes of women there is tacit pointing to the other elements in his thought and composition. This is, of course, further informed by his intimacy with music. A female reader who is capable of a reckoning with Nietzsche cannot possibly be the beneficiary of general accomodation. Instead, Nietzsche is selective, strict, and upholds those traditional conditions we associate with eros. Either one is elevated or ruined. Such is life...In the famous photograph taken at Lucerne, it is Nietzsche who put the whip in Lou Salome%26#039;s hand. IF you want to feel, love, live fully, dangerously, Life will make you pay the toll.

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